User talk:Frederic wang

Faceted Curriculum Project
Hi Fred, thanks for the welcome. I've been putting up quite a bit of material related to a Faceted Curriculum Project that I'm trying to get going. I just want to check that this is appropriate usage of the mathweb site, before going any further. Do you think that the Mathweb site is able to host such a Semantic Wiki? Any potential problems? Thanks, Marty 17:43, 3 September 2007 (CEST)

Hi Marty,

First of all, thanks for your contribution to the Mathweb wiki. The members are interested in mathematical projects that will help to put and manage mathematical contents on the Web (and more precisely in a semantic way), so I think your e-learning project is appropriate. Moreover this wiki is a semantic one (it uses MediaWiki + Semantic Mediawiki extension), but you should talk about it with the main administrator - Christoph Lange.
 * Hi Fred, hi Marty, let me allow to join this discussion and reply just in place – indented, though. --Clange 01:22, 4 September 2007 (CEST)

I've read quickly what you wrote about your project and I can give you some tips :

1) At the low level, you are likely to display formulae on Web pages. You must use the MathML language, the standard mathematical language for the Web, and more precisely its semantic markup (more or less isomorphic to OpenMath). We have already talked with Christoph about using MathML in MediaWiki, and it seems this feature is planned. For the moment, you can only use TeX that will be converted to PNG images, but I hope this will be improved in the future. If you want to know more about MathML (available tools, implementations, accessibility issues, etc) you can ask your questions to me.

2) At the level of what you call a "Block", you may use OMDoc an extension to MathML created by Mikael Kohlhase (not subscribed to the wiki yet). It allows to encode Theorems, Definitions, etc and the relations between them. I believe Christoph has already made some work to use it in a wiki.
 * Yes, in my SWiM wiki, which is my main project, but it is not yet usable enough to host FCP. I suggested Marty to probably start the project here and later import it into SWiM, as SWiM will eventually serve FCP's needs better. At least that's what I hope.

3) You can talk about issues of organization of mathematical stuff by communities, customization & I18N of notations, etc with Christine.

4) Finally, as I said before, Christoph can give you information about using semantic contents in a wiki.

PS : I will not be here during three days and Christoph has not come back to the wiki for one month...
 * Check the recent changes, it's rather one week and a few days. I do admit, though, that it has been quite a long time since my last major contribution… ;-)


 * OK sorry about this ! In fact I had not checked precisely how long was your non-attendance.


 * Oh, and BTW, Fred, thanks a lot for your commitment to the MathWeb wiki – e.g. for giving Marty a welcome :-)


 * Thanks Fred and Christoph! Please feel free to give more advice/feedback on the FCP discussion page.  I don't start teaching for another few weeks, so I should be able to make some progress in the near future. -- Marty 15:04, 4 September 2007 (CEST)


 * I see you has been really active for two days. I'll try to have a look at your work.

Discussions
Hi Fred, from now on, I'll answer your questions directly on my talk page, so that we can keep the contributions to a discussion together. If you want, you can put that page on your watch list. Cheers, Clange 14:59, 13 February 2007 (CET)

Math fonts
Hi Fred, thanks a lot for telling me (and the other readers) how to fix this issue. On my Mac, I needed to set different fonts, but, fortunately, it was described on the Mozilla math font page how to do that. --Clange 17:02, 30 July 2007 (CEST)

Thank you
Fred, thank you for the welcome. I am a bit confused as to what came from you and what from Christoph. I have replied on his talk page. I have now reread what you put and realise that you copied something from Christoph and that the comment about SVG etc came from you and not Christoph. Where would you like a discussion of SVG to take place? At the moment my question is on Christoph's discussion page. --Fletchjp 13:58, 3 January 2008 (CET)

OK, I've just modified my message that, I admit, was not really clear (I used a template that was written by Christoph).

I have now started a page on SVG with no content yet, but have started a discussion on Talk:SVG. Thanks for the thought. --Fletchjp 15:29, 3 January 2008 (CET)

MathML in Opera
Hi Fred, thanks for mentioning Opera's MathML support here. I've given it a try once, and I will do more experiments in future. Unfortunately, my SWiM system relies on other components that do not work well in Opera; that's why my main focus is still on Firefox. Best, Christoph 12:54, 15 February 2008 (CET)
 * I tried SWIM with Opera and the MathML is rendered well: http://www.mathweb.org/wiki/Image:Swim_opera.png
 * Fred
 * Thanks for letting me know. The last time I tried it, there was some problem with loading fragments of a page, and I thought it was due to a certain lack of JavaScript/Ajax support. But now, thanks to your report, I gave it one more try, and now everything looked fine. That is, I should test SWiM in Opera more seriously in future. Best, Christoph 19:04, 17 February 2008 (CET)